5. The Investigator / Observer. *

Gautama Buddha
Famous 5’s: Gautama Buddha, Emily Dickinson, Jeremy Irons, Meryl Streep, Franz Kafka.
Blog 5’s: ?
Focal Point of Attention: What others want from me
Emotional Centre: Greed
Higher Emotional Virtue: Detachment
Mental Centre: Stinginess
Higher Mental Virtue: Omniscience
Sexual Focus: Confidence
Social Focus: Totems
Pathology: Obsessive Schizoid / avoidant
Family History.
Two kinds of family can make children withdraw. The first is where the child felt utterly abandoned and accepted this fate by learning to detach from their feelings in order to survive. The second and more common scenario is where the family was so psychically intrusive that they child closed down emotionally in order to escape. As children, 5’s found ways of distancing themselves by closing themselves into their rooms or removing themselves from their feelings to the extent that they could stand directly under the gaze of someone trying to pry into their life while feeling absolutely no reaction to this intrusiveness. They were the children who walked either some distance ahead or way behind their parents in an attempt to increase the space between them.
Habitual preoccupations:
General.
The ego of a 5 is like a castle; high and impenetrable, with tiny windows at the top. The occupant rarely leaves and secretly watches those who come to the door, making sure that he or she is not observed. 5s are very private people who like to live in secluded places away from emotional strain. They will often be at home with the phone unplugged and tend to watch the action from the edge of the crowd, making little or no effort to join in. Because they felt intruded upon as children and the sense that their privacy was stolen, 5s withdrew as a strategic defence and tend to minimise contact, simplify their needs and protect their private space at all costs. They will invent elaborate ways to create a safe distance between themselves and others because if someone gets too close they feel that they have lost their primary defence.
5s can be hermits leading a reclusive and usually mental life within the confines of a small house and venturing out only as far as the library and the shop. If they do play a public role it will probably be from a position of remote control where frontline interactions will be handled by others who will probably report to the 5 by phone. When 5s appear in public they will often hide behind a pose, minimising their feelings and blending into the background. 5s prefer not to get involved. Financial interactions feel dangerous and obligations coercive. Anger and competition need to be controlled and emotional attachments are felt to be a drain. 5s often feel that they are being coerced by people’s positive expectations and they will seldom approach intimacy and affection unless there are guarantees that their independence can be maintained. 5s will find ways to hide or to isolate their intimate contact into one compartment of their life.
5s are very sensitive to interactions that make them visible to others. Self-promotion, competition and demonstrations of love or hate make 5s feel as though they are playing into other people’s hands and they tend to remain aloof from interactions where they could be judged. Many 5s will feel superior over those who crave recognition and success, believing that desires and intense emotionality indicate a lack of control. When feelings become painful, 5s are apt to let go and they feel a sense of accomplishment in being able to detach so easily from the needs that dominate other people’s lives. 5s are very independent although this independence is based on the ability to detach attention from their emotional and instinctual life. This in turn has the effect of forcing them to live in their minds. 5s can live happily alone. They have modest needs, take great delight in their own fantasy life and don’t get sidetracked into spending time and energy on trivial concerns. The 5s love of privacy can turn into loneliness when they become isolated and unable to reach out. When their hunger for contact is aroused, 5s realise how difficult it is for them to move toward people and how they tend to watch as their own life goes by. They live in an atmosphere of scarcity and prefer “independence” to “satisfaction”, afraid that their own desires might cause them to become attached to others.
Having centered their existence in the mind, 5s seek connection through special knowledge. They are strongly attracted to models and systems that explain universal principles of interaction, especially human behaviour. By mastering systems such as psychoanalysis, they can form a mental concept of the way that interactions take place and locate themselves within the system in an emotionally detached way. Their interest is rarely attracted to wealth or material things and money is only good for the privacy it buys or the independence it brings in terms of having free time to study or pursue their other interests. 5s will not spend their limited energy in acquiring quantities of worldly things and if they inherit money they are likely to hoard it for the independence it guarantees and continue living in modest luxury. If they are born without money they will not work for others in order to accumulate it. They will however put endless time and effort towards study and other mental pursuits.
5s often find that their feelings are more accessible when no one is around and that it is difficult for them to let their real self out with other people in the room. Solitude is their staging ground for a private fantasy life and when they are alone they are able to sort things out and find out what they really feel. 5s will tend to feel more connected to people when they are alone, remembering what was said. They are able to retroactively savour what was left unfelt during the course of the day. A short meeting can mean a lot to a 5 who is going to enjoy the interaction over again later, in the privacy of his or her home. 5s get attached to sharing an interest or a special bond of understanding with each of their different friends. The friends may never be introduced to one another, or be informed about what else is happening in the 5s life, but their presence will be treasured within the limits of the special bond of trust. 5s can feel closely connected in a nonverbal way, needing only minimal contact to keep a relationship alive. Small rituals of friendship are honoured and if the 5's friends are wise, they will make a 5 their observer-adviser rather than expect demonstrations of emotion or hoping that the 5 will be the initiator in the relationship.
Attractive Environments.
5s are often scholars of obscure but important fields of study, members of the inner circle of the “ones that know” - for example the psychologist’s psychologist. The computer programmer who prefers to work night shift is likely to be a 5.
Unattractive Environments.
Any job that requires open competition or direct confrontation such as salesperson or public debater will not be attractive to a 5.
What 5’s should be aware of:
* All information taken from The Enneagram by Helen Palmer.
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as a gemini
i have to say that this enneagram stuff is kak in my opinion.
i identify with different things on different days and seem to be a bit of a composite. anyhow - i am not all that tolerant of these personality pigeon holes - like astrology, enneagrams, archetypes etc.
a good friend of ours runs enneagram workshops (originally enneagrams are a catholic thing by the way) and he and i have many disputes about this system. he has not yet been able to give me a number that fits so there is yet more bullshit about how they can blur.
come on!
kc
no the Enneagram is not originally a catholic thing, it originates from ancient sufi teachings...
also, your friend shouldn't "give" you a number, you should work out for yourself which type feels most true.
i'm usually fairly sceptical about this kind of thing myself but have found this utterly interesting - and very useful.
MJ
um. actually, what you term enneagram is new - as in less than 100 years old. and the catholic church teaches it to its priests - of which my friend was one until he discovered he was gay and hooked up with a buddhist guy.
anyway, here is the wikepedia link. it was first built in 1954. the larger science of enneagram is definitely medieval, but is claimed to be sufist by the medieval folk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enneagram_of_Personality
kc
Sure the Enneagram only came to the west about 100 years ago, thanks to the work of Gurdjieff, Oscar Ichazo and others who applied the model to an understanding of human personality. And ok, they probably coined the term "Enneagram" since the Sufi terminology would have been fairly meaningless in a western context but that's just semantics. The concept of a 9 pointed star as a model for mapping processes originated in Eastern spiritual teachings as a tool for understanding a number of things - including the unfolding of human consciousness. I'm not saying that wikipedia is wrong, only that my well-researched and referenced book delves back a little bit further...
MJ
I'm convinced that Hubbee (eingineer)and oldest sprog (computer programmer) are 5's. No doubt about it.
noss
my friend who introduced me to Enneagrams (strangely enough given what it says about them liking systems to explain emotional / psychological stuff) is also a 5. I've got my suspicions about ds and possibly ramon too...
MJ
They are hell to live with and are very hard work to get along with....*nos to be awarded the Gold medal for tenacity asap*
yeah noss...
i love my friend dearly but wouldn't want to be emotionally involved with him!
Mj
Crazy how you can love someone and REALLY dislike them at times....
oh my goodness nossie...
...aint that the truth! if there's one thing i've learned about marriage, it's that.
MJ
I'm going to get them both to do the test....should be interesting...i'll post them when they're done.
cool noss
i'll be interested to hear the results but as i was saying to Allycat, doing the test is not the ideal way of discovering type - it's more accurate if a person reads the profiles and sees which one fits best. you are probably right though because we are able to work out what the type of those we know well is.
MJ
Will do. I hope they'll play ball....just for the hell of it...they might just learn something about themselves that I already know and they don't or can't see....
yup nossie...
...once we get over the shock! horror! ouch! aspect, there's a lot learning that can be done...
MJ
I am taking my time reading through analysis....trying to be brutaly honest with myself....not easy, like you said...but I shall soldier on...
good girl noss!
:)
no pain no gain, you know...
knowledge is power and all!
MJ
Although, I must add that in his old age, the old man HAS mellowed, somewhat...now if only Sprog would take a leaf out of old man's books....he's got MANY lessons to learn yet...