Porn or erotica ?"SA Women dip their pens in saucy ink."

The title is nicked from the Body Language column in the latest print edition of Mail & Guardian.

Karin Schimke talks about a new anthology entitled 'Open; An erotic anthology" and the intention of bringing 'respected and respectable women writers" onboard, 'to dip their pens into saucy ink".

The debate of necessity mentions two loaded words in 'erotica' and 'pornography' and it's a natural not a logical progression in a debate about sex and literature, to go on to define both these descriptions that are not only relative to specific people and situations but also meaningless after endless debate.

If one likes a sexual scene in literature it's erotic, if not it's labelled porn, end of story.

Schimke focuses on a combustible zone when she speaks of the gap that exists between the polar opposites in how the woman is viewed and seen, especially by the man.

"Between the ancient sexual extremes of Virgin and Slut is the vast unmade bed of real ever-changing sex." This anthology could go a long way towards filling in this gap as men are mostly too one- dimensional to embark on a multi-faceted exploration into this divide with only words as weapons.

The negative about involving a collection of intimate stories by women about sex with the dichotomous and very archaic battlelines drawn between erotica and pornography is that the writing gets lost in the tendencies to shoot straight from the hip without any forethought.

A label like porn tends to stick just as well as one like rascist or plagiarist and is just as easy to throw without any justification at all.

Erotica tends to arouse while porn tends to brutalise but as Schimke admits, the dividing line "lies in the realm of individual perception."

This anthology coupled with this column has taken on too vast a territory and, although I have not read any of it yet, my feeling is that it should have been left as an anthology of writings about sex by women.

Taking on decrepit debates over definitions and meanings of porn and erotica as well as the nucleus with immenent critical mass that is the dividing line between the Vrgin and the Slut is an over ambitious attempt to punch in a higher weight division and dillutes the impact of the anthology. Is it a book or is a feminist attack on a straw man sneaking in underneath the radar?

Erotica for this writer is understated, memorable for subtlety and nuance but I've also seen erotica in magazines and books labelled porn so I'm no innocent bystander.

As a teaser for the anthology, this column should not have mentioned the words porn or erotica at all and left the reader to determine their own interpretation as those words simply direct the prospective reader into channels that no sane person would have taken voluntarily.

Overall it's too loaded and intimidating where the reader feels obligated to take a stance on what is a mass of ideological, political and extreme heaps of garbage accumulated over many decades of a concentrated disenfranchising the average person of their right to enjoy sex.

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DO...

...virgins erotic, sluts porn? WTF?

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why do i always do this?

The other question, Original MJ,

is why oh why you never seem to put the comment in the intended place afterwards. It vexes me, OMJ. It makes me wring my hands and pace the room muttering why... why... WHY...

really. It does.

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dear dex,

well the truth is that i am prone to having second thoughts.

yesterday, i had the highly controversial comment of "nice blog, DO. I kinda wondered about that myself".

and then somewhat pedantically questioned his usage of "petard".

OED definition:
petard n noun historical a small bomb made of a metal or wooden box filled with powder. a kind of firework that explodes with a sharp report.

PHRASES hoist with (or by) one's own petard: having one's schemes against others backfiring on one.

i thought eprhaps he meant "pennant".

oh, and last time i had just confessed to a secret attraction for a fellow bloger of many years, along the lines of "your mom's quite nice..." (let me tell you, it's a bitch to hit your sexual peak in a small town, i'm going a little crazy here, in some respects ... )

that's about it, really.

love from
omj

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dear OMJ

you think too much.

I always thought "petard" was short for "Pete the retard"

(and now this comment will stay permanently misplaced)

Love,
dex

dex

well, i get myself into trouble with some of my snappier comments in real life.

i don't like the indelibility of blogging, i'm all for CONTROL+Z. in the real world, too.

If only, OMJ.

wouldn't that be handy.

And in certain cases: undo, redo, undo, redo... you get the picture.

OMG

about being a small town....

....being in a big one ain't much help either.

As Cybill Sheppard so succinctly put it:

I don't know if it's just his body I'm attracted to or his soul... or if it's just me. Oh, I'm feeling generally... attracted. The truth is, I'm so ripe I'm about to fall off the vine.

hi dolce

yes, you're right. i've had this feeling before, in a place where your datingbuzz search gives you 200 possibilities, instead of 8.

Dolla

about being a small town...

come on now. I'm sure your proportions are perfectly fine.

*rolls eyes*

yes dear.

At the very worst, D

i'd say you were a small suburb.

Dexter

Crusin' for a bruisin' china?

Hm?

errr

at least it's a new, hip suburb... not an old, run-down one, where just about anybody gets let in, you know.

Dex

are you bored?

Why?

do you have a drill?

oh Dexi

I love it when you get all American Psycho on me.

*sigh*

Nah Dolla

I'm just a Souf Effrican siek-ou.

OMJ

I like that. good one Dex.

A vexed Dex. Reminds me of the time when Arbie used to sign off each comment with 'Arbchick'. At least that's stopped now.

Dusty Muffin

Dusty, you're funny

in the head.

Dex

That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.

Dusty Muffin

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dash dash fuckin dot, Muffin.

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you okes

are morsing with my kop.

Haha Dolce

Thanks. My keyboard and monitor are now covered in droplets of water and gob.

Thankyouverymuch.

Porn or erotica ?"SA Women dip their penIs in saucy ink."

Cause I can...

Aaah Dreaded Man

you are just tempting me to write some more bad porn.

Now, I seem to remember you muttering about writing some erotica - how about it?

Still in the big smoke?

Many a write has hoisted a petard only to

realise one persons literature epic is another persons TV dinner.

Dreaded

You are spot on there. Different strokes et al.